Comments on: Honesty. http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/ WoriParadise is the personal blog of Youn-hee and Dave, two twenty-something youngsters experiencing life together in Korea. Follow us in our journey to tomorrow, while dreaming about today. Welcome to our life. Welcome to WoriParadise. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:30:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dad http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-33 Dad Sun, 25 May 2008 20:42:27 +0000 http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-33 Hell no, you stupid boy! Oops, too open? But realy, no. I said it is a matrix, with X-Y axes. This means both are lineary unrelated! You can be less open without being less honest and vice versa. The interesting part is to find out where the non-lineary relationship between the two ends, or rather: meets. Honesty is a state, a principle. Openness is a measurable aspect of behavior. Apples and pears. Yet, both fruits! Now I turned mathematics into behavioral philosofy... Bite that! Hell no, you stupid boy! Oops, too open? But realy, no. I said it is a matrix, with X-Y axes. This means both are lineary unrelated! You can be less open without being less honest and vice versa. The interesting part is to find out where the non-lineary relationship between the two ends, or rather: meets.
Honesty is a state, a principle. Openness is a measurable aspect of behavior. Apples and pears. Yet, both fruits! Now I turned mathematics into behavioral philosofy… Bite that!

]]> By: Dave http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-32 Dave Sat, 24 May 2008 23:18:48 +0000 http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-32 Say, if I follow your mathematical approach, does this mean that the more open you are, the more honest you are? And visa versa? Would that mean that, if you decide to not share something with someone, it automatically means you're being less honest? If this is the case, then the little white lies just found their way back into our truthful lives :). Say, if I follow your mathematical approach, does this mean that the more open you are, the more honest you are? And visa versa? Would that mean that, if you decide to not share something with someone, it automatically means you’re being less honest? If this is the case, then the little white lies just found their way back into our truthful lives :).

]]> By: Dave http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-31 Dave Sat, 24 May 2008 22:36:56 +0000 http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-31 ...today? :) Quite interesting to see that you used a mathematical approach to explain this problem, not too soon after the TV Show 'Numbers' –which you strongly disliked– ended. Is there a hidden hint in there? Anyhow, I know what you mean. They kinda go hand-in-hand, the two. Still, an interesting subject to discuss on, I think. I'll try to make more posts like this, and see where they go. …today? :)

Quite interesting to see that you used a mathematical approach to explain this problem, not too soon after the TV Show ‘Numbers’ –which you strongly disliked– ended. Is there a hidden hint in there?

Anyhow, I know what you mean. They kinda go hand-in-hand, the two. Still, an interesting subject to discuss on, I think. I’ll try to make more posts like this, and see where they go.

]]> By: Dad http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-30 Dad Sat, 24 May 2008 16:54:36 +0000 http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-30 Consider openness and honesty as the two axes of the communication matrix. X = openness, Y = honesty. Then (see that)there is no 'stop on openness' = 'start on honesty'. They are two seperate 'dimensions'... In fact, any consideration of what can/should/could be said will always have these two seperate unrelated evaluations, wether you are aware of it or not. To be honest: your hair looks awfull today... Consider openness and honesty as the two axes of the communication matrix. X = openness, Y = honesty. Then (see that)there is no ’stop on openness’ = ’start on honesty’. They are two seperate ‘dimensions’… In fact, any consideration of what can/should/could be said will always have these two seperate unrelated evaluations, wether you are aware of it or not. To be honest: your hair looks awfull today…

]]> By: Dave http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-29 Dave Sat, 24 May 2008 14:28:55 +0000 http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-29 Interesting approach. I indeed did not think about the separation of openness and honesty. Though one might argue the border between when something stops being related to openness, and starts being about honesty. Interesting approach. I indeed did not think about the separation of openness and honesty. Though one might argue the border between when something stops being related to openness, and starts being about honesty.

]]> By: Dad http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-28 Dad Sat, 24 May 2008 14:25:06 +0000 http://www.woriparadise.com/2008/05/honesty/#comment-28 Well, to be honest: you seem to mix-up honesty and openness... One should always be 100% honest. But sometimes one can, indeed, be too open. If I see a co-worker in a new dress and think 'holy smoke, what an awfull dress', not saying so is all about openness: there is no gain in being open then. But if my colleague asks me for my opinion about the dress I will answer honestly. As you Dave, I do not believe in 'white lies' but rather in the right dosage of openness. Well, to be honest: you seem to mix-up honesty and openness… One should always be 100% honest. But sometimes one can, indeed, be too open. If I see a co-worker in a new dress and think ‘holy smoke, what an awfull dress’, not saying so is all about openness: there is no gain in being open then. But if my colleague asks me for my opinion about the dress I will answer honestly. As you Dave, I do not believe in ‘white lies’ but rather in the right dosage of openness.

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